Knife Review: Spyderco PITS 2

In this detailed Spyderco PITS 2 review, find out if this state-of-the-art non-locking folding knife could be your ideal EDC companion.

Mike Read, aka “Pie in the Sky” (and hence the model name ‘PITS’), is a British knife-maker and engineer who approaches knife design in a unique way, completely re-thinking and re-designing mechanisms, and not being constrained by convention.

The Spyderco PITS 2 is Mike’s second collaboration with Spyderco and takes his custom knife, the ‘Alien’, and makes it available to a wider market. Though an evolution of the PITS, as a UK EDC legal slip-joint folder, the PITS 2 is a completely different concept. In the PITS 2 the idea of a back-spring has been transformed into two integral spring arms machined within the handle scales. The free end of these arms support the blade pivot, and flex as the blade is opened to provide pressure between the notch in the blade tang and the stop pin, creating the slip-joint action.

The handle scales are meticulously crafted from solid 6AL-4V titanium with a matt finish. The PITS 2 has a satin full flat grind blade, and is made from Böhler-Uddeholm’s M398 particle metallurgy stainless steel. The PITS 2 has a symmetrical design that includes a fully accessible Sypderco opening hole in the blade and a reversible tip-up pocket clip, ensuring that every aspect of carry and operation is entirely ambidextrous.

Join me in this Spyderco PITS 2 Review for all the details.

What’s in the box?:

All exactly as you would expect for a Spyderco folder. The slip-cover box housing the knife in a plastic bag, along with information leaflet and sticker.


A good look round the folded PITS 2 – Things to look out for here are:

Absolutely fresh out of the box and there is a plastic protector disk under the pocket clip to ensure there are no marks should you wish to remove the clip altogether, or swap it to the left handed configuration.
Immediately you see this is a unique and special design having sprung pivot arms within the handle scales themselves. The pocket clip is deep carry, and removable / reversible with a single screw into the titanium spacer.
Looking at the pivot you can see how it is fully floating on the integral sprung arms that are one piece with each of the handle scales. The stop pin holds the front of the handles together as they are actually separated from the pivot. This unique design removes the back-spring and allows a slip joint with fully open handle. The Spyder-hole opening hole is completely exposed for easy opening.


A good look round the open PITS 2 – Things to look out for here are:

Swinging out the full-flat grind rounded drop-point blade, and you get your first look at the integral spring arms flexing. With the open-back handle and cut through handle scales the PITS 2 is definitely different. Featuring a very slicey and useful blade geometry with the Spyderco opening hole in M398 steel.
Unlike the PITS, there is no flipper-like finger guard, however there is a low profile feature which is sufficient to prevent the blade being able to close on your fingers while you have a firm grip.


A Special look at the other PITS folders – Things to look out for here are:

To see where the PITS 2 hails from, this gallery is to give a direct side-by-side comparison of the PITS 2 with the original PITS. I’m also lucky enough to own a custom Mike Read PITS MK5 which gives you an insight into how Mike’s original design was “Spydercoed” and the evolution into the PITS 2.


Explained by the Maker:
The reasons for certain design choices may not be clear when simply looking at an object, so this section is intended to give an insight into the thinking behind a design by speaking to the designer themselves.

Mike kindly agreed to speak to me about the PITS 2 design, and here is a summary of that conversation:

The PITS 2 actually came from a test piece Mike was working on for a double-detent slip-joint folder where the detent balls were mounted in the frame and used a cut out though each handle to form a sprung arm so the whole frame bent out and in as the detents engaged and released. The idea being that if you gripped the sides of the handle it would hold the detents in place. But once the test pieces were made up Mike didn’t like it so dropped the idea as it was. However, the cut-outs were something he did like, so he wanted to use the idea somehow. Fortunately for us, Spyderco approached Mike for another knife design following the success of the PITS.
Compared to Mike’s custom knife there is a slight difference in the blade tang’s cam shape and the lock pin, both of which affect the action and resistance to closing, but of course a custom maker can fine tune these details in a way a production knife maker cannot.
Safety was designed into the PITS 2 by using a finger choil, but a much smaller choil than used on the UKPK to maximise cutting edge length, and to allow you to keep four fingers on the knife handle rather than one fully in a choil. By carefully positioning the choil and mini-guard of the blade sufficiently forward of the pivot, it gives your finger more leverage on the blade, so more protection from it closing, and even if it starts to close it will safely press on your finger and not cut you.
Going back to the original PITS, to be able to include the finger guard an open back design was crucial. Though not required for the PITS 2 design, this open back was a carry-over of a feature Mike likes, so wanted to keep.
For all of Mike’s designs he always puts the largest blade he can fit in the handle. In fact his custom version has a blade that is a couple of millimetres longer, and he offered buyers two different blade shapes. For the Spyderco PITS 2 the less ‘pointy’ version of the blade was chosen as a more friendly overall look.
For the handle design, Mike was basing this on his own use of smaller EDC knives where you take it out of a pocket to make a cut, then fold and put back, and so on. This is not intended for large heavy jobs, but just all the small general cutting tasks, so the PITS 2 was designed around this type of use, and not heavier cutting. The curves and shaping of the handle is intended to give you immediate indexing and a variety of grip options and dexterity without having to look at it.


The Blade and Handle – Detailed Measurements:

For full details of the tests and measurements carried out and an explanation of the results, see the page – Knife Technical Testing – How It’s Done.

The blade is made from M398 steel.


With the PITS 2 being a slip-joint folder, the resistance to closing (and related stiffness of opening) is an important factor, so for this I carry out Torque measurements for opening and closing.

And the torque measurements for the PITS 2 (for further reference values check the Technical Testing link):

Of note are that these are the lowest opening and closing torque figures I have ever measured. Strangely it doesn’t feel that way in use, but these are the actual measured values.


The Factory edge up close:

Followers of Tactical Reviews will know my views on factory edges, but to recap:

Anyone using a knife will need to sharpen it. That first factory edge is just like the first tank of fuel that a new car comes with (or first charge of the battery).
A good factory edge is a ‘nice to have’ but not a ‘make or break’ for a good knife, as you will be putting your own edge onto it soon enough.
The factory edge does however indicate the care a knife maker has put into the final finish.
It is for this reason Tactical Reviews measures factory edge sharpness and specifications, and includes this information in the detailed technical testing.

As a further look at the factory edge, this section has been added to include some high magnification photos of the factory edges.

Spyderco’s typically immaculate factory edges.


What is it like to use?
As a true one-handed-opener slip-joint, the PITS 2 is already somewhat unusual. Add in the unique integral sprung pivot, that not only looks intriguing, but allows for the open back design; then on top of this the finely crafted all Titanium handles, and you have a really special knife. This is all before you even open the blade.
As is befitting of an EDC slip-joint, the PITS 2 is a supremely easy to carry size. When I drop it into a bag without using the clip I sometimes find myself hunting for it and worrying I’ve lost it. Using the clip has been secure without being overly abrasive as some can be,
I find that most naturally I use a pinch grip to hold the knife with thumb and finger opposite sides of where the pivot is.


Earlier in the opening/closing torque section, you might have noticed me mention that the PITS 2 has the lowest torque readings I have so far measured. However, oddly, it does not feel too light, and does snap into position. Using slip-joints safely does rely on correct technique, and used correctly, this is no issue at all. In fact the crisp edges of the Spyder-hole (which was designed to be used with various types of lock, not really a slip-joint) could become too sharp if the spring resistance was higher, so the balance is just right.

To reassure you further though, here is a photo showing how, when you grip the knife firmly, if the blade does start to rotate closed, it pinches onto your finger and this prevents the blade closing any further. This demonstration photo was to intentionally illustrate what would happen if you got the cut direction and pressure wrong, and so far I’ve never actually had this happen.

Of course, I’m not going out into the woods and batoning the PITS 2 or processing firewood. It’s a small EDC knife for all those every day tasks. Being (currently) UK EDC legal, I’ve had it with me all day every day and enjoyed removing plastic injection molding flashing, opening boxes and food packaging, and trimming whatever needs a trim.

The edges of the opening hole are almost too crisp. This does give the opening hole grip, but combined with winter dry hands, and one job after another, was starting to cut into my thumb. I might ‘ease’ this at some point, as the hole is very accessible when the blade is closed so a slight reduction in grip should not be a problem. Something for future-me to decide. Using an opening hole instead of a thumb stud keeps the whole design much thinner and sleeker, so is a great choice.

Pocket carry with the clip is comfortable and has been secure. With the overall length being short enough not to get pushed off your pocket edge when sitting and moving about. Personally however, losing a knife that has popped off a pocket edge at some point during the day is just too frustrating, so I’ll only use the pocket clip during a job where I’m using the knife on and off for a while. Then once finished I’ll move it off my pocket edge and into a safer location.

Another observation, if it matters for your use, is that general reactions to the PITS 2 are much more positive than the original PITS. I love the PITS and it is a fantastic tool (which is also UK EDC legal) punching well above its weight, but despite being UK EDC Legal many comments about ‘are you allowed to carry that’ are simply not there with the PITS 2. The rounded blade tip profile and slightly smaller dimensions seem to have brought this into more poeple’s comfort zone and makes them curious about a design unlike anything they have seen before.


Spyderco PITS 2 Review Summary

The views expressed in this summary table are from the point of view of the reviewer’s personal use. I am not a member of the armed forces and cannot comment on its use beyond a cutting tool or field/hunting knife.

Something that might be a ‘pro’ for one user can be a ‘con’ for another, so the comments are categorised based on my requirements. You should consider all points and if they could be beneficial to you.

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What doesn’t work so well for me
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Opening and Closing Torque is low.
Spyder-hole edges are bit too sharp.
Polished pocket clip seems slightly out of place (Stonewashed might have been better).

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Things I like
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Totally unique integral sprung pivot arms.
Open back handle.
Secure but non-abrasive pocket clip.
Mini finger guard prevents blade closing onto your fingers.
Slim and light.
UK EDC Legal.
Slicey full-flat grind blade.
M398 steel.
Movable/removable pocket clip.
Fully ambidextrous.

Spyderco PITS 2 Review Videos

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Knife Review: Extrema Ratio Numen

In this detailed review of the Extrema Ratio Numen, Tactical Reviews presents a detailed look at Extrema Ratio’s latest super-versatile survival knife. Join me in this Extrema Ratio Numen Review for all the details.

Extrema Ration named this survival knife after the ancient Roman concept of numen, an invisible force that guides and protects in crucial times. It is not an anthropomorphic god with a definite personality, but a discrete power that exerts its influence in every situation.

The version featured in this review is Numen Satin – made of Böhler N690 (58 HRC) steel for reliability and corrosion resistance. Also available in an S600 steel version (64 HRC) that has greater wear resistance and toughness.

Designed in collaboration with Daniele Dal Canto, AIGS Guide (Italian Survival Guide Association), Numen is a sturdy, versatile and highly functional knife, designed to be a silent but powerful companion, made to deal with the toughest challenges with a full tang construction, making Numen ideal for cutting down, pruning, batoning, chopping and woodworking.

The design of the blade makes it perfect for heavy-duty work, but the versatile handle also allows for more precise cuts.

Could Numen be your ideal companion and loyal ally for all your adventures? Join me in this Extrema Ratio Numen Review to find out.

What’s in the box?:

Or, “What’s in the BIG box?” as this is a substantial knife (and I may be repeating that comment a few times). Simply put it is the sheathed knife in a plastic bag along with the quality control card. Then, for scale, I’ve put my XL glove-size hand on top, which doesn’t quite do justice to the size.


A good look round the Numen’s Sheath – Things to look out for here are:

Extrema Ratio always give you a super-functional, tough and reliable sheath to carry the knife, and the Numen has exactly that. Lots of thought has gone into this ambidextrous sheath to make sure it stands up to heavy use alongside the Numen. This gallery has had to be quite large to show all of the features.
The main body of the sheath has webbing on both sides for securing the hanger and providing additional load carrying options. The tip of the sheath has a good size drainage hole next to the leg tie loop. Retention straps are always at risk of being cut when sheathing and unsheathing the knife, so to counter this Extrema Ratio have used a flexible solid plastic strip for the strap. The visible side of the strap has fabric sewn onto it to make it look completely in keeping with the rest of the sheath, but that plastic will resist cutting for a very long time, much more than a fabric strap.
Typical for Extrema Ratio; as well as the standard retention strap, there is a handle retention strap that ensures the knife stays completely stable when not actively in use by preventing the handle flapping about, and reducing the chance of anything getting caught over the handle. This has two press studs, the inside surface of which have a plastic caps, to avoid any metal contacting the G10 handle.
Now onto the removable, reconfigurable hanger. At the very top of this is a cord channel and flipping to the back there are two separate belt loops. Both the belt loops has a full Velcro lining so that once fitted to whatever belt/web you choose, the loop locks down to hold it tightly reducing slipping and flapping.
The hanger itself fits to the webbing on the sheath body using a flap with two press studs; this allows you to remove it or reposition it to suit, and to go between right and left handed configurations. Hand in hand with this, the retention strap is fitted with a press stud on both ends, so when changing handedness of the sheath, the retention strap is popped off and swapped round.
This level of function is exceptional and characteristic of Extrema Ratio’s designs.


A good look round the Numen – Things to look out for here are:

Possibly the most notable feature (apart from overall size) is the length of the Numen’s handle – almost half the entire length of the knife. Handles are of course ‘hand’ sized, so for smaller knives, this is expected, but a large, long-bladed knife, the size of handle is usually much shorter than the blade. We’ll come back to the benefits of this later.
Numen’s blade is made to take seriously heavy use. Thick blade stock and a tapering flat grind sweeping towards a strong tip. The plunge line is well radiused to reduce stress concentrators, and a sharpening choil allows for full length edge sharpening with the choil being large enough to also not focus stresses.
G10 handles with complex shaping that includes the distinctive Extrema Ratio first and second finger grip groove, are precisely finished and fit perfectly to the blade tang. Texturing all along the handle edges enhances grip wherever you position your hand. For the fully choked up grip there is also a section of thumb jimping on the spine for stability.


The Blade and Handle – Detailed Measurements:

For full details of the tests and measurements carried out and an explanation of the results, see the page – Knife Technical Testing – How It’s Done.

The blade is made from N690 steel.


The Factory edge up close:

Followers of Tactical Reviews will know my views on factory edges, but to recap:

Anyone using a knife will need to sharpen it. That first factory edge is just like the first tank of fuel that a new car comes with (or first charge of the battery).
A good factory edge is a ‘nice to have’ but not a ‘make or break’ for a good knife, as you will be putting your own edge onto it soon enough.
The factory edge does however indicate the care a knife maker has put into the final finish.
It is for this reason Tactical Reviews measures factory edge sharpness and specifications, and includes this information in the detailed technical testing.

As a further look at the factory edge, this section has been added to include some high magnification photos of the factory edges.

The Numen’s edge actually proved more challenging than most to get close-up images of. The factory edge was very sharp and had plenty of bite.


What is it like to use?

It is not the biggest or heaviest knife I’ve carried, so I don’t want to overplay that aspect of the Numen, but the more you carry larger blades, the more you understand when it is worth the extra size and weight, and when it starts to become a burden. So, yes, it is a commitment to decide to carry the Numen, as you will be aware of it at times. However, that awareness of its presence is rewarded with complete confidence in this versatile, robust tool which is capable of jobs you would otherwise have to carry a hatchet to be able to do. As well as heavy tasks, this workhorse of a tool is also capable of fine control and precision cutting thanks to its handle accommodating so many different grip positions.

The gallery shows overall scale with my XL glove-size hand, then working through the finer grip positions to the heaviest chopping grip all the way at the butt. Thanks to the excellent handle grip design, this extreme hand placement felt absolutely secure during all the heaviest chopping.


At the time of writing I didn’t have any suitable green wood for testing the chopping. Instead a trusty pallet chop test, which, as it happens, was an Italian pallet, and one made of an unknown hardwood which is well seasoned. So a suitably tough chopping test, not green wood, not softwood, but seasoned hardwood.

Clearly visible are the large steps in the cut from the power of the Numen’s strikes, easily finishing off the board and into the next one. Kindling and feather sticks easily processed. Despite the size of blade, I still prefer to baton kindling due to the improved control when more than one hit is required to split the wood.

Following the heavy chopping tests, I happened to have some 1″ manilla rope out for some other cutting tests. The wide wedge of the Numen’s blade would not be well suited to this type of cut, but I gave it a go anyway. The bite from the now used factory edge was excellent, only stopping in the cut due to the hardness of the new rope. Positioning the rope on the cutting block edge to give relief during the cut, and the Numen gave a really clean cut through this tough fibrous material. (Now wishing I’d had a hanging rope cut test set up, but didn’t.)

Of course, with a blade stock of 6.1mm, the Numen cannot be the best slicer, but understanding this and using technique to provide relief when cutting harder materials, it does really well. The length of handle giving you great purchase to apply force with control, and be able adjust your grip position to best effect.

A good sheath is as important as a good knife, and Extrema Ratio reliably give you a great sheath to carry the knife. Even a detail as small as the cut-resistant retaining strap elevates the reliability of the Numen’s sheath. With a modular assembly and adjustments (like the movable position of the secondary retention strap) you didn’t know you needed until you realise you have them, it is possible to fine tune how you carry the Numen. Most importantly, thanks to the quality of the sheath, you know Numen will still be there when you need it.


Extrema Ratio Numen Review Summary

The views expressed in this summary table are from the point of view of the reviewer’s personal use. I am not a member of the armed forces and cannot comment on its use beyond a cutting tool or field/hunting knife.

Something that might be a ‘pro’ for one user can be a ‘con’ for another, so the comments are categorised based on my requirements. You should consider all points and if they could be beneficial to you.

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What doesn’t work so well for me
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Blade thickness impedes slicing ability.
Velcro in belt loop slows down fitting and removal from your belt.

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Things I like
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Extended handle provides a range of grip positions.
Powerful chopping action.
Flexible mounting due to modular sheath.
Ambidextrous sheath.
Anti-cut retention strap.
Super-tough full tang blade.
Balanced even for finer work.
Very secure grip.
Choice of N690 or S600 steels.

Extrema Ratio Numen Review Videos

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